Git vs Subversion

Gerco · June 16, 2009, 6:02pm

I noticed we now (also?) have Synfig git repository at sourceforge (synfig.git.sourceforge.net). Wat does this mean for the Subversion repository? Is it still valid? What is relationship between those two? Are they mirrored both ways? I’m somewhat confused!

G.

Genete · June 16, 2009, 10:30pm

Hi Gerco,
I’ve been talking with pixelgeek about our question in the chat and I think that reading it would clarify some of your doubts.

00:03 < pixelgeek> genete: Do you want to answer Gerco’s question on the forum?
00:04 < pixelgeek> I’m guessing we’re still using SVN as primary and Git as a mirror, until pabs, dooglus, others agree to switch?
00:05 < genete> pabs won’t agree, because I’ve asked him several times and he doesn’t want it
00:06 < genete> only because it is one single repo, not three. But sf only can hold a single repo
00:06 < pixelgeek> ugh
00:07 < genete> pabs has told me several times that it is about time he goes from synfig (as you already know)
00:07 < pixelgeek> Why doesn’t he want one repo? I thought he was pushing for that at one stage?
00:07 < genete> he told me that it is a conceptual error. I don’t know why
00:07 < pixelgeek> Yes - that’s going to leave a big hole
00:08 < genete> the other day I was talking to dooglus in a PM about the git repo in sf and about the pabs going
00:08 < pixelgeek> I hope he trains someone to take care of the VPS
00:08 < genete> he told me that he is very unmotivated too
00:09 < pixelgeek> dooglus has been for a while. I thought he was getting back into it recently? I saw a couple of comments from him tha indicated that he had the latest build.
00:10 < genete> because I pushed him to help me on the latst bug I found with etl
00:10 < pixelgeek>
00:10 < genete> anyway if he come back he would have no problems with git
00:10 < pixelgeek> What would motivate him?
00:10 < genete> oh man,
00:11 < genete> synfig was a personal challenge to him, once he demonstrated himself that he can manage it he loose the interest
00:12 < pixelgeek> Ah - I can relate to that.
00:12 < genete> so none of the human affairs were on him (money, popularity, recognition…) only self challenge
00:12 < pixelgeek> He wasn’t interested in resolving the multi-treading bugs? There’s a challenge and a half…
00:13 < genete> maybe if we introduce lots of bugs he becomes motivated again!
00:13 < genete> I don’t know :-/
00:13 < pixelgeek> Or tease him back in as a mentor for another coder?
00:14 < genete> finally I wrote an email to Gerco asking for his implication in “important” decisions
00:14 < genete> (I’m the another coder)
00:14 < genete> and he told me that he still confused about commit directives
00:15 < genete> (basically that and other stuff)
00:15 < genete> so I decided to start moving
00:15 < genete> Zelgadis is helping me on admin tasks
00:15 < genete> the idea is to completely migrate to SF
00:16 < pixelgeek> Yes, I gathered.
00:16 < pixelgeek> OK
00:16 < pixelgeek> It’s good that you’re making things happen.
00:16 < genete> SF provides forum, wiki, webhost, shell, etc.
00:16 < pixelgeek> Otherwise the code sits around and gathers dust
00:17 < genete> maybe I’m doing mistakes (like commit akagago’s patch without confirm the license he released the code) but less is worse
00:17 < pixelgeek> The downside to SF is that it is a kludgey interface and it’s slow…
00:17 < genete> we cannot stay still waiting no body decides nothing…
00:18 < pixelgeek> exactly
00:18 -!- xerakko [n=Miguel@debian/developer/xerakko] has quit [“Ex-Chat”]
00:18 < pixelgeek> akagogo’s intent was that we included the code at some point.
00:18 < genete> sf is slow but doesn’t rely on a 30$/month VPS defrayed by darco
00:18 < pixelgeek> AFAI recall
00:19 < genete> I’ve emailed him asking for a formal confirmation of the license, anyway
00:19 < pixelgeek> Good
00:19 < genete> perhaps in summer (after his course) he can eventually come back
00:19 < pixelgeek> That would be good

Regarding to SVN or git. You or anyone can still using SVN because I’ll merge all the commits from SVN to git. But I only would commit to git @ sf.
-G

muhkayoh · June 17, 2009, 8:41pm

Hey Genete,

What sort of storage space and bandwidth is needed? I ask because I have my own VPS already and, depending on the needs, could provide some hosting if that would help (since I’m not really a programmer).

Matt

Genete · June 17, 2009, 9:37pm

I don’t exactly the amount of space or bandwidth needed and possible can grow later. At the moment it is not planned to migrate everything because it would need a careful host migration to keep the forum and the wiki in place and I don’t have the enough knowledge and free time to do it now. Maybe your offer is a good choice but at last we still needing someone who pay the host and I personally prefer a system like sourceforge for that because it is free at the end.

Keep the forum and the wiki at Darco’s VPS is not bad! But I think that we should support him as much as possible making donations to help him on defray the cost of the synfig.org site. synfig.org/Donations

We still needing someone who cares about the vps. I have rights to enter to the vps remotely but, sincerely, I don’t know exactly what diagnostics have to do to keep it safe and clean. Any help in that way will welcome profusely.

At the moment I’m concentrated on improve Synfig (mainly in the interface) doing as much coding as I can.

Thanks for your offer anyway!
-G