Bone alignment issue Re-Post

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I am very sorry to have to re-post this. I’ve spent over a week trying to fiddle around and I still can’t solve the problem. My original post got no replies, so I hope it isn’t against the rules to repost a question like this.
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“Yesterday the bones were working fine, and a finished a small animation using the same body parts as I am now. Initially, I applied no mask since these are already transparent and I wanted to see if I could save time. The bones didn’t work. I applied a mask around the outline. The bones still don’t work. Why don’t the points remain aligned with the part after I link them? It results in wonky rotation as seen in the attached pictures. My version is 1.4.4.”

I managed to restore my original character model and the joint rotation works well. However, when I tried to replace the hands with an updated part, I had the same issue with weird rotation as above. The mask was also not rotating well so the hand was getting cut out if I rotated it too much.

If someone could help me, that would be really great.

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I’ve tried linking the bone to the group containing the mask and PNG. I also tried linking it to just the PNG. Neither worked. I also tried deleting the mask, but the rotation was still off.

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Could you select the Chest/Body layer and show its transform handle/widget?

https://wiki.synfig.org/Group_Transformation_Widget

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I uploaded an old model with working bones, but I added new hands which aren’t working. Here is the front hand’s handle:
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Moving the grey origin point of the handle doesn’t affect the hand’s rotation.
Deleted this comment below since it wasn’t replied to you.

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The pale purple point moves the Origin (green) point, that indicates the pivot point :slight_smile:

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I placed the green transformation point onto the center of the joint. It still doesn’t work :frowning:
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Here is the rotation after doing the above. I also put the purplish point on the center of the joint, to no avail.
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For whatever reason, the back hand (which is also a new part that I imported along with the faulty hand) rotates fine. I also tried moving the back hand’s handle to a far away place, but the rotation still worked fine.

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Can you share your file? Publicly or via PM.

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Sorry, I’m a huge computer noob. How do I get the file from the Synfig database onto my desktop one? Is there an export button?

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I was wondering… Maybe you animated the Pivot Point movement?

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Today my siblings taught me how file are organized in folders. I only know how to use Chrome OS, where you can find any files by just pressing the recent button. I discovered the Synfig file in my User folder. Here it is:
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