icons - animate mode on/off and keyframes lock

The new Animate Mode Off/On icons:

The current keyframes lock is not clear enough for its meaning in the actual size, this trial is intended to address it. I am not sure if it is better than current one.

What does it look like in real:
keyframelock_n_animate_mode.png

I’m thinking that Animate off mode should not show a person running. I can’t think how you should show someone not changing in a single frame, but I think that’s what we should aim for. There should be some other symbolism that conveys the difference between being in the mode and not in the mode rather than just the colour.

Now that you want to rework both buttons I have some suggestion you should follow:

  1. Incons should be color blind people safe.
    Past lock in grey scale.
    lock-past.png
    Both animation mode buttons in grey scale.
    animate_mode_on-greyscale.png
    animate_mode_off-greyscale.png
  2. Icons should represent the concept of the action (wihtout need to hard interpretation):
    If we use the same icon for both actions we can confuse people. Why don’t use a stational red stickman for the animate mode off?
  3. When used, colors should have universal meaning. I’ve never been happy with the red = animate and green = non animate. I’m always confused between the information of the button as status or as action to do. Does the button inform of the current mode or does it inform about what will it do when pressed? I think that icon represents the action to perform so red means “stop allow animating” and green means “start animating!”. There is one status signal that is opposite to it: When in animation mode, there is a red edge in the canvas window and nothing in non animation mode. I suggest to change the background of the time panel when in animation mode and when non in animation mode. It is much more visual IMHO.

Also, we can think on add a blinking light somewhere that will be off in non animation mode and red and blinking in animation mode. I think that this last one will be disliked by Zelgadis … :mrgreen:
That’s my contribution for the general confusion and enjoyment.
-G

Thanks for your inputs. All of them should be taken into account :slight_smile: I will post updated version of these two icons.

Btw, I setup a repository for this icons task :slight_smile: so you can get the src(sif), rendered(png) and my TODO.
Icons Design: github.com/jcome/synfig_ui/tree/master/icons
Icons TODO: github.com/jcome/synfig_ui/blob … icons/TODO

I intend to polish the current icons, we can not just throw out all NICE ideas about UI/icons and saying we should change the whole thing to implemented them. I think this polishing job is more doable at the moment and can effectes Synfig Studio quickly.

The UI / UX redesign sould be based on the synfig way or synfig workflow. I have to learn and understand it more.

More will come later as I always say :slight_smile:

Thanks for ur help.

[size=150]Animate Mode Button : Relevant Art[/size]

TB AnimatePro
toonboom-animatepro2.png

Blender 2.57
blender257_animate_mode.png

3DMax
3dmax.png

Maya
maya.png

  1. dont just use color as indicator
  2. red green is hard for user to understand the current status (on / off)
  3. use diff poses for on and off modes
  4. dont use red circle as recorder symbol since there are 3 circle icon buttons on canvas window.
  5. make button as simple as possible
  6. make the meaning as clear as possible
  7. follow the current design of synfig studio

My answer is TOGGLE BUTTON. to emphasize this special button I use the style in toolbox instead of those button on the top of canvas window.

What is your opinions

[edited for typo]
animate_mode_off-trail2.png
animate_mode_on-trial2.png

personally speaking I prefer text “Animate Mode” and the new [on/off] button introduced in Gtk3.

Yes, looks clearer.

I like the idea of a toggle button too.
What’s that on/off button from Gtk3?
-G

GTK3_ONOFF_Buttun.png

Ok, then I will go to the toggle button idea

and fine-tune the icon of animate mode.

Screenshot-5.png

I do prefer a simpler walking man. Less details even. And what about a toggle button with changing icon? a red static stickman in non animation mode and a green walking stickman in animation mode (like a traffic lights). If the user is color blind there is a icon shape difference for each status, apart of the toggle button.
-G

Actually, I tried to use your Avatar as the icon yesterday :mrgreen: , but it was not easy to tweak it suitable for a button in 16x16 size

Is it a bit complex for a toggle button? I mean the toggle is simple and clear as those on the top of canvas window. so let me finalise this patch and letter on, I will get it a try following your advice since this kind of task will help my coding knowledge improving as well :wink:

Animate_Mode_Icons_Screenshot.png

  • A C D is almost same, but A is more tango-ish.

  • C and D is the same character in different colors.

  • B intends to have a more cartoon-ish icon.

Which one do you prefer? stickman( A C D) or cartoon-ish walk man.

1.jpg

Can you draw the B type looking front and stand by? I would like to have all the versions at sight.
B type starts to looks good to me :smiley:
-G

Hi I just make a tango-ish walk man (steal from PB’s walk cycle character).
animate_mode_icon_orange.png

next step, finish the ToggleButton patch.

I love that one! Well done!

Thanks.

Now, the patch for toggle button is ready.

is the character in red better than orange in this case?

Animate Mode walk character in red.png

The icon
animate_mode_icon_red.png

Yes, I would prefer it if the animated man was red when animate mode is on. This is because the state of this button completely changes what happens when you move things around the stage, so it should be very noticeable.

Personally, I’d prefer it if the man was green if animate mode is off, as I’m used to seeing that. But orange (OFF)/ red (ON) would be fine for me too.